Re: [Monotone-devel] cvs import

From: Jon Smirl <>
Date: 2006-09-14 10:57:33
On 9/13/06, Nathaniel Smith <> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 04:42:01PM -0700, Keith Packard wrote:
> > However, this means that parsecvs must hold the entire tree state in
> > memory, which turned out to be its downfall with large repositories.
> > Worked great for all of, not so good with Mozilla.
> Does anyone know how big Mozilla (or other humonguous repos, like KDE)
> are, in terms of number of files?

Mozilla is 120,000 files. The complexity comes from 10 years worth of
history. A few of the files have around 1,700 revisions. There are
about 1,600 branches and 1,000 tags. The branch number is inflated
because cvs2svn is generating extra branches, the real number is
around 700. The CVS repo takes 4.2GB disk space. cvs2svn turns this
into 250,000 commits over about 1M unique revisions.

> A few numbers for repositories I had lying around:
>   Linux kernel -- ~21,000
>   gcc -- ~42,000
>   NetBSD "src" repo -- ~100,000
>   uClinux distro -- ~110,000
> These don't seem very indimidating... even if it takes an entire
> kilobyte per CVS revision to store the information about it that we
> need to make decisions about how to move the frontier... that's only
> 110 megabytes for the largest of these repos.  The frontier sweeping
> algorithm only _needs_ to have available the current frontier, and the
> current frontier+1.  Storing information on every version of every
> file in memory might be worse; but since the algorithm accesses this
> data in a linear way, it'd be easy enough to stick those in a
> lookaside table on disk if really necessary, like a bdb or sqlite file
> or something.
> (Again, in practice storing all the metadata for the entire 180k
> revisions of the 100k files in the netbsd repo was possible on a
> desktop.  Monotone's cvs_import does try somewhat to be frugal about
> memory, though, interning strings and suchlike.)
> -- Nathaniel
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