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New Witness Confirms Existence of Chinese Concentration Camp, Says Organs 
Removed from Live Prisoners

A former employee of Liaoning Provincial Thrombosis 
Hospital of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine told The Epoch Times during 
a recent interview that the Sujiatun Concentration Camp in China was actually a 
part of a hospital. The concentration camp has engaged in taking organs from 
Falun Gong practitioners when they were still alive and selling the organs. 
Since 2001, the concentration camp has secretly detained approximately 6,000 
Falun Gong practitioners, none of whom have been able to leave the camp alive. 
The hospital removed many kidneys, livers, and corneas from the practitioners. 
After the organ removal, the practitioners were thrown into an incinerator, 
which was converted from a boiler. Their ashes were dumped together with burned 
charcoal. 
Organs from Three Quarters of the 6,000 People Were Removed
Those whose organs were removed were in various states of health. Because many 
of the victims were illegally detained, there was neither an arrest warrant nor 
identification as to who these people actually were. Often after their organs 
were removed, nobody claimed the bodies. Sometimes their bodies were picked up 
by crooks who pretended to be their family members. 
About three-quarters of the 6,000 people died after their hearts, kidneys, 
corneas, or skin was removed; their bodies were then burned. This witness, whose 
family member participated in the removal of Falun Gong practitioners' organs, 
said that approximately 2,000 Falun Gong practitioners remain in the hospital. 
She was afraid that the authorities would kill all of them to destroy evidence. 
The Liaoning Provincial Thrombosis Hospital of Integrated Chinese and Western 
Medicine is located at 49 Xuesong Road, Sujiatun, Shenyang City, Liaoning 
Province, China. It was the first hospital in China to specialize in the heart, 
the brain, and surrounding blood vessels. The hospital is composed of several 
organizations, including the Liaoning Traditional Chinese Medicine College 
Teaching Hospital and the Shenyang Thrombosis Treatment Center. 
Concentration Camp Details
The hospital site is 21,087 square meters, with 17,564 square meters of building 
area. It employs 460 people in 24 departments and 20 specialized offices. 
Information from the Chinese government shows that the hospital was established 
in December 1988, and was formerly named the Shenyang Research Institute of 
Thrombosis and Liaoning Province Thrombosis Treatment Center of Integrated 
Chinese and Western Medicine. In June 1998, it was renamed China Traditional 
Medicine Thrombosis Treatment Center. 
The Chinese Business Morning View said in a story on July 4, 2004, that a farm 
worker died of abnormal causes in Sujiatun, Shenyang and was later cremated. The 
death certificate was provided by the Chinese Medicine Thrombosis Treatment 
Center in Sujiatun. The news caused a stir in China. 

A copy of the death certificate. (The Epoch Times Archives Photo)Below is the 
transcript of an Epoch Times reporter's interview with the former staff member 
of the Liaoning Provincial Thrombosis Hospital of Integrated Chinese and Western 
Medicine in Sujiantun, Shenyang City. Questions were posed by the reporter and 
answered by the staff member being interviewed. 
Epoch Times: Did the hospital's medical staff inside the concentration camp know 
about this? 
Answer: This hospital has a small number of officials and some doctors involved 
secretively in the operation of organ harvesting. Some other staff in the 
hospital knew about this, but this is absolutely a taboo [to talk about]. They 
all are afraid of being killed or courting trouble, so they all avoid the issue. 
Only those highly trusted doctors could be chosen to be the surgeons for organ 
harvesting operations. 
ET: Were Falun Gong practitioners alive when their organs were harvested? Did 
their families know about this? 
Answer: Falun Gong practitioners who were imprisoned there came mostly from 
Dabei Prison, Masanjia Labor Camp, and other prisons in Shenyang, or they were 
Falun Gong practitioners arrested in parks or residential homes. Because they 
refused to denounce Falun Gong, they were arrested without formal warrants, and 
their families did not know their situation. Many did not even have their names 
[recorded]. In addition, since the Chinese authority exercises a policy of "not 
being responsible" for killing Falun Gong practitioners, the death of Falun Gong 
practitioners is not a very big issue for prisons. The Chinese Communist Party 
persecutes Falun Gong, [but] these medical personnel were told Falun Gong 
practitioners were facing death because they killed people, or they were 
sentenced to death because of crimes, or they had become insane from practicing 
Falun Gong. 
Those Falun Gong practitioners whose organs were harvested came from various 
places. 
Organs harvested from live bodies are worth far more than organs taken from dead 
bodies. Many Falun Gong practitioners were still alive when their organs were 
taken. After their organs were cut out, some of these people were thrown 
directly into the crematorium to be burnt, thus leaving no evidence. For some 
others, after their organs were stolen, the doctor sewed up the wound and asked 
the family or family representative to give a signature for cremation. Family 
members did not know at all that the dead had their organs taken out. 
Furthermore, there were some healthy Falun Gong practitioners in prisons in 
other areas who were injected—without their knowledge—with psychoactive drugs 
that made their minds confused. They then were transferred to Sujiantun 
concentration camp to suffer further torture, till in the end their organs were 
harvested and their bodies were cremated in secret. 
Among the Falun Gong practitioners whose organs were harvested, some were weak 
and some were healthy. Since most of them were illegally arrested, there were no 
arrest warrants or identification cards. After their organs were taken out while 
they were still alive, no one came to claim their bodies; or [sometimes] people 
using fake identities claimed their bodies. 
None of these people have come out [of the concentration camp] alive; 
three-quarters of these 6,000 people have died, having their hearts, kidneys, 
retinas, and skins harvested and their bodies disposed of. I think now about 
2,000 Falun Gong practitioners are still in this hospital, and I am afraid now 
that the authority will destroy all evidence and kill them. 
Question: How did you know these things? Were you yourself a doctor involved in 
organ harvesting? 
Answer: I worked at the Liaoning Provincial Thrombosis Hospital of Integrated 
Chinese and Western Medicine, Shenyang. This is exactly where this concentration 
camp is located. One of my family members was involved in the operation to 
harvest Falun Gong practitioners' organs. This has brought great pain to our 
family. 
Question: Please tell us what you knew about. 
Answer: From 2001, our hospital started to detain Falun Gong practitioners. At 
the beginning, these people were detained in the single-storey houses in the 
back yard of the hospital. Later, the hospital authorities demolished the 
single-storey houses, and it was unknown where in the hospital the Falun Gong 
practitioners were transferred. Many staff of the hospital discussed in private 
that these Falun Gong practitioners had been secretly transferred to the 
underground chambers of the hospital. According to some people working inside 
the hospital, the hospital has a huge system of secret underground chambers. 
At the time when we went to work there, the person in charge of logistics and 
purchasing in the hospital said that the quantity of disposable sterile gloves 
used for operations and daily supplies that the hospital authorities asked to be 
purchased had increased dramatically. The logistics people estimated based on 
the scale of purchases at that time that there were at least 6,000 Falun Gong 
practitioners detained in this hospital. 
These Falun Gong practitioners were not detained in the 4-story building under 
the in-patient department and administration at the front of the hospital, in 
order to keep the hospital staff from seeing them at all. We only occasionally 
saw Falun Gong practitioners being sent on a mobile intensive care bed to the 
first floor for physical examinations. These people were very weak. For the 
majority of the Falun Gong practitioners, nobody knew where they were being 
secretly kept. While they still did not know where these people were kept, some 
staff inquired to the hospital authorities about why so much food and so many 
sterile gloves and daily supplies were purchased. The hospital authorities said, 
"You only need to do your job well. There is no need for you to ask any other 
questions." 
Starting in 2001, a family member of mine participated in organ-harvesting 
operations. My family member tried to keep me from knowing about this at the 
beginning. The hospital authorities selected doctors they trust in different 
aspects to perform the secretive operations. After a period of time, I found 
that my family member was in a lot of pain, often had nightmares, and appeared 
panic-stricken. After repeated inquiries, this family member told me the truth. 
The leader of the hospital had asked my family member to participate in the 
organ harvesting operations on Falun Gong practitioners as early as 2001. It was 
2003 when my family member confessed. A few years after, my family member felt 
so much pain from participating in this incident that it was impossible to 
continue with the evildoing. My family member decided to go abroad to get away 
from this matter. 
My family member also told me: "you don't understand my suffering; those Falun 
Gong practitioners were alive. It might be easier for me if they were dead, but 
they were alive." 
Question: Were there any other doctors from the hospital taking part in the 
operations of cutting out Falun Gong practitioners' organs? 
Answer: I know there were some. All these things have been carried out secretly. 
Many doctors at our hospital involved were practicum doctors transferred from 
other hospitals. Because the government does not want to be responsible for 
Falun Gong practitioners' bodies and lives, their lives are treated as garbage 
by the regime, and their bodies were used in experiments by new doctors doing 
their practitcums. 
Many doctors came and left the hospital because they suffered a lot after having 
been involved in these kinds of things. They either requested to be transferred 
to other places, or changed their names. Some might have been killed to 
eliminate the evidence, their identity files were taken out from the hospital's 
filing system, or their names were changed. Nobody knows where the doctors have 
gone. 
The hospital staff all know that the rear part of the hospital is forbidden. It 
is always watched. The staff avoids talking about the place. 
Question: It is said the hospital is equipped with an incinerator. The person 
whose organs were removed will be burned when he or she is still alive. Is that 
true? 
Answer: The employees in our hospital call this place "the incinerator." 
Actually, it is a boiler room. Some poor farmers from nearby places were hired 
to work in the boiler room. They were penniless when they first came here. But 
they could scrape up some watches, finger rings, necklaces, and so on. The 
amount is not small. It is said by the employees in the hospital these jewelry 
and watches were collected from the Falun Gong practitioners whose organs had 
been removed when they were about to be thrown in the boiler to be burned. It is 
also said by the employees in the hospital, some were still alive when being 
thrown into the boiler. 
Question: Do they get injection of anesthetic when in surgery? 
Answer: Yes. There is a cap to the anesthetic quantity used in mainland China's 
hospitals. Generally, the supply of anesthetic was determined according to the 
accommodation of the hospital. To the public, the number of patients in our care 
appears to be very small, and publicly reported number of surgical procedures 
performed is quite low. But the equipment and articles used in surgery are 
abundant. Because the amount of anesthetic is limited, these secret surgeries 
could not use the normal anesthetic doses. In order to save anesthetic, they 
economized on the anesthetic used in surgeries on these Falun Gong 
practitioners. The amount of anesthetic used was very small. However, many whose 
organs were removed were still alive. You can imagine the pain suffered by the 
Falun Gong practitioners whose organs were removed. 
Question: Are there any survivors among the 6,000 people detained since 2001? 
Answer: Nobody has come out alive. The number of them gets smaller and smaller. 
The Falun Gong practitioners detained at Sujiatun are fewer now than before. But 
I believe that the sin of removing the organs of the Falun Gong practitioners is 
still continuing. 
Question: Where are these organs usually sold to? Do the higher authorities in 
the government know about this? 
Answer: They are mainly sold to Thailand, but I believe they are also sold to 
other regions of the world. Nowadays, there are many patients in China who need 
human skin, corneas, and kidneys for organ transplant surgeries. Many patients 
have to wait in line to purchase organs. Currently, a kidney can be sold up to 
the price of 30,000 to 100,000 U.S. dollars. The profit from selling organs is 
simply too great. The people who benefit from this are not only the top leaders 
of hospitals and the officials of the Chinese Communist Party's Heath 
Department. This is a crime present across the entire nation. People ranging 
from government officials to doctors to organ sellers are all involved in this 
and are profiting greatly. 
Question: Why did they target Falun Gong practitioners as the source of organs? 
Answer: Because relatives of many Falun Gong practitioners don't even know that 
their family members were arrested. So if the Falun Gong practitioners are 
killed, there will be no one to come and claim their dead bodies. 
Question: Why did you want to expose this? This may bring great danger to you. 
Answer: I know that there are many Falun Gong practitioners who are currently 
detained at the hospital. I would like to expose this to the international 
community, so those who are not yet killed can be saved. Also, I would like to 
expose this as an atonement for my family. 
I am not a Falun Gong practitioner. But as a former staff member of the 
hospital, I have the responsibility to expose the truth, and let the world to 
save those Falun Gong practitioners who are still alive. Organs of some Falun 
Gong practitioners are still living on patients' bodies. I would like to call on 
all society to pay attention to this issue and stop this shocking crime. 


By Ji Da   

Mar 17, 2006